Hi friends from all over the world:
I have 100 seeds from the Himalayas brought by a friend in 2021. He spent about
6 months collecting all kind of seeds there. Specifically, this 100 seeds, let’s call the varietal Monster1, were collected at 3,000 meters above the sea level, about 10,000 feet.
How do I reproduce them? I need ~ 1 millon seeds as fast as possible.
Can you please please please help? Everyone who may give us a hand will be rewarded with all you can smoke in #Ecuador
Your gonna need to clone a bunch of females and polinate them. The initial seeds are gonna take 50 days to make plants. So i think it will take 75 days to produce the plants needed to pull this off. You can clone male plants but they have to be cloned before they are flipped to flower.
Of course!!! What a bright idea!!! I’m gonna make a map and will ask you for your advice again. Stay safe!
Nice. Are u planning on doing this as an outdoor rin or indoors. Outside would be best for the amount of sewds u wanna get but inside would be alot cleaner of a run less cha ces of any bugs and interferwnces with any kind of diseases or sicknesses for the plants. Ill be watching along whrn seeds r done are u selling them here also or just in ur country. Id love to jave a strain from so far and high up. BRING IT!!!
Good luck on your mission.
Good luck hope u accomplish your goal
Re-reading: why should I want to clone male plants? 
For consistency. Otherwise your phenotypes will be all over the map, more so than with all different females and all different males. Unless the goal is to just get a million seeds and let the seed buyers sort out the pheno’s. Ideally, you want to have all the same female, with the best characteristics and all from the same male with the best characteristics. But even with that you will have different pheno’s.
Thanks a lot! It is super important all your help!
Well if your seeds turn out great then you have the living male. If you clone it before it grows the male flowers it will only make preflowers pluck those off. Then you can keep the male much longer. And use him later plus. Like @sssportsmfg was saying about uniformity. I DO NOT like using multiple males. You cannot be sure which male was the best and or what male sired the best seeds of that run? I cannot breed anything i cannot prove what it is to even my self. It bothers me to no end…unkowns are an issue for me. And i always have to know.
hi @paulcoyote
Moving mountains I see. You have come a long way, and a huge mountains to still peak, not impossible. I like what @PreyBird1 and @sssportsmfg has mentioned about your breeding project, and its very important information about stablising your strain.
You might consider having a professional breeder supporting you in this project, to go through all the work to find out you have an unstable strain would be a disaster for a years worth of work, may as well throw it away as bird feed. Further to above Himalayan landrace are cross pollinated, difficult to grow in different environments and most importantly the integrity of beans collected, you might a huge variety and combination of mixed genetics, therefore unstable.
You also have to take into consideration cross-pollination from other growers, pollen can float up to 15km. Here in South Africa, alot of cross pollination happens, personally I am happy with open pollination of genetics.
Going into your project, you need to grow hundreds of strains to find the right female and male plants to work with and then only start crossing the good genetics.
Paul i know you have done great work, but breeding is a different ball game to cultivating medical cannabis for flower. Breeders are strange characters, you need someone behind you that knows what they are doing, cover your bases. I love this project you working on, and its not impossible, just take your time, plan, prep and then move forward. Please chat with @PreyBird1 . Any further questions just post, lets help you. #growersnetwork #cannabiscommunity
A very important book that will give you all the information without you learning from trial and error. It can be purchased on amazon.
For sure! We will hire an experienced breeder. Someone from www.breederscolombia.com is coming ASAP.
Or, if anyone of you want to get a sabbatical, welcome to #Ecuador 
Paul, I was seriously considering moving to Ecuador when I retired, but life got in the way in the form of medical problems. I had done a lot of research on living there, immigration policies etc. I was thinking along the northern part of the pacific coast.
And well since I have never even made seeds lol…I don’t think I would be much in the way of help ! Beautiful country.
Chris…I have to take a little exception to what you are saying. If Paul actually has landrace beans, then he has a prize indeed. Way back in the 70’s I was fortunate enough to get some beans from the Hindu Kush mountains brought back by a serviceman know by some friends of mine. We planted them and they were absolutely kick ass. The plots in those mountains are protected by generations of families who have cultivated the same strain for centuries, not decades…centuries. They are stabilized way past anything any of the new breeders are doing. However back then I was stupid and only had one goal, plant seeds and get good pot to smoke, I didn’t save any beans, I should have.
One thing I might mention is that those plants are used to being grown at 10,000 feet, dry conditions, intense UV, and all the parameters that high mountain growing entails. Bring that down to close to sea level, and it could invariably lead to problems with the extreme change in environment. Ecuador is just about as exact opposite in growing conditions (except in the Andes mountains) from the source of the seed as you can get. Hopefully they will grow better in better conditions (closer to sea level) and still retain the goodies.
One thing I would love to see is DO NOT DILUTE THE LANDRACE, please do not hybridize the seeds keep them a true landrace, just use the best of the best from those you have. There is WAY TOO MUCH dilution already. All the old truly fantastic strains are disappearing.
@paulcoyote if you keep them 100% landrace I am very interested in getting some of the resulting beans from you !!
Anyway enough blabbering on my end lol.
Hope you are doing well and can visit us sometime… Or take a sabbatical in #Ecuador
Thanks for all the information and advice 
The idea is to develop an strain that is suitable for the Andes, between 2.000 and 4.000 meters above the sea level that provides raw materials for housing, clothing and food. And metabolites as by product for medicine.
With that kind of seed, we’ll cover the 7.000 km of the cordillera, from Venezuela to the Patagonia in Argentina with green
Commodities.
F*ing capitalism. We need commodities.
This is quite a nice article written about landrace, and its a lot of luck, hard work to find legitimate heirloom seeds, plus its the integrity of the collector who gave them to you. There was also a recent documentary I posted about Pondoland Strainhunters, if you watch all three parts of the series, one of our main “untouched” rural growing areas is totally saturated with greenhouse seeds genetics like Exodus Cheese, sunset sherbet.
Dont forget smugglers, breeders, cultivators have been travelling in all these areas for decades, swopping seeds and cross pollinating. For instance, its debatable if Durban Poison is still available in South Africa. Recently high times published a a very indepth article about the landrace, but the site seems to be down at the moment.
"You may just find a natural descendant of ancient strains somewhere in the world with some effort and luck. Finding actual old seeds that come from a long-dead heirloom plant itself would require even further luck.
With that being said, here are a few of the best-known landrace cannabis strains." Source
