Hello my fellow growers… I’m asking on behalf of a good friend I’m helping out.
I gave them 5 seedlings for a tent. I thought they were all Autos but it became apparent that it in fact was:-
3 White Widow Photos (me slack at labelling)
2 Zskittles autos
They realised, flipped it to 12,12 and carried on.
One of the White Widows grew balls! So I think it must have hermied? I buy all my seeds from reputable seed banks.
They yanked it out…
A few weeks past and they have seeds in the Zskittles auto!!!
So I’m thinking it must have been pollinated from the White Widow photo that showed seeds first.
My question is:-
Will they be 50/50 (F/M) mix like regular seeds?
Will they now be a cross of Zskittles and white widow? Any chance the seeds will be female ones? Or Autos?
Well it should be a cross of the 2 and may grow an auto if the recessive gene is carried over. Otherwise it will be a photoperiod. And chances are 50/50 male female. But since it hermied?? It should make female with a high tendency to hermie also.
I pollinated an auto with femmanized pollen on one branch. Then it decided it wanted to make its own flowers on the same branch. Its is a weird thing to happen.
I let the flowered lemon haze cross another lemon haze auto. So those seeds are dried now and need to be bagged before i have time to work on them. i probably wont be testing these anytime soon.
I am with preybird on this.
Although I will say this. I have seen lots and lots of people grow bag seeds. I believe most of them are from a Hermie. I have yet to have a person tell me that their bag seed grew a Hermie plant. I have had feminized plants Hermie on me for no reason also. So I guess I’m saying I got no clue.
I know this is way beyond my level; however I don’t understand how a single plant in a tent that is a Fem Auto; It hermies and produces seeds without being pollinated by a male; wouldn’t all those seeds be Female?
You all know who we need? @TheMadFlascher
This is right up his alley
Well Jammer, Here is what I can conclude. Remember a hermaphrodite is a flower with BOTH sexes present. If it was in a large commercial grow and undetected, it can not only self-pollenate but actually pollenate other nearby females. I think most growers would detect and remove the hermie before it developed to the point of self-pollinating, but it is completely possible! It is also very plausible when you realize it is a survival mechanism of the plant and intended to do just that (self pollinate)!!!
The resulting seeds could produce male or female plants just like ‘normal’ seed. Unless there was a GENETIC disposition of that specific variety to hermie, there’s no reason to assume the plants grown from those seeds would continue the hermie trait. I do understand that hermies are most often encountered in growing plants from feminized varieties but preybird is probably much more able to address that issue than I…
I believe the self pollinated seeds may have a tendency to be 50/50 and may have the genetic disposition to herm…but I believe the seeds on the other plant will be feminized …
@aussiecrawl
I can help with at least 1 question you had. In my experience if you pollinate an auto with photo pollen you get a fast photoperiod. They show sex quicker and shortens flower by about 2 weeks compared to a true photoperiod. That being said I’ve only ever had 2 hermis and I culled them before anything went down. But I wouldn’t trust seeds made from a herm. They could just pollute the gene pool.
That got the gears turning for me. Very interesting question and I’m no scientist or even that smart so take this with a grain of salt. But thinking about the process of both hermaphrodites and reversal (where you get female pollen) I would think that the hermaphrodite is both male and female genetically and chemically where a reversed plant is chemically changed so the genetics are still all female. I dont know if this even makes sense lol. Damn rabbit hole.
Hi @aussiecrawl
Funny you should mention this my first round of gscx auto gave me one seed.
I still wonder what will it grow into.
A hemmie an auto a fem an auto fem mmmmmm.
I just cut the lower portions of my 2nd gscx auto the other day.
This has been the longest outside grow season ever.
Started last year in July when I discovered mystery seedlings popping up.
It’s now almost mid June 11 months from when it all started.
As this started to take off last night, I had a feeling you would shoot us the biology of what happens.
You are a good one Sir, and many here appreciate your knowledge.
I was the one in class that had the grading curve affected by guys like you.
My report card always said that I play well with others, but have a problem paying attention.
Anyway what were we talking about?
Thank you for helping us out.
Thanks for your input! Really appreciated. It’s certainly put me off using those seeds if they may hermie. Not worth the hassle as I’ve got a decent stock of seeds. They always say it starts with the genetics! Happy growing