Hypochlorous Acid.....Deep Dive

I’ve been using peroxide to do my bud wash for years. I don’t get the lemon juice and baking soda thing at all because the counteract one another. One is pH up and one is pH down I have no idea other than making a unhappy place for mold grow what it does. Peroxide kills mold spores. It doesn’t take that much. I have to deal with a whole lot of dirt. A WHOLE LOT… And I also harvest a whole lot at a time. Buckets aren’t big enough need to use barrels. I use a 30 gallon for a pre-rinse. I’ll give them a good swirling shaking rinse. then I go in a 15 gallon barrel with 3 cups of peroxide in it. Then to rinse barrels. I have had mold/rot and treated my plants this way and had no further problem drying and curing. So I know it works. One cup of the solution after running three times in your machine, :man_shrugging: I got no idea if it will work or help. But I see absolutely no reason not to. So I will be doing that in my first rinse barrel and then straight water in my last…

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@happilyretired Ok question for you, when your washing your diluting it alot. With the hypochlorous acid from the machine, do you use it straight or dilute it ?

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I was using 1-5 ml / Gallon to keep my res clean but I’m switching back to peroxide untill I get KCl. I noticed some health issues since switching to the home generated and want to rule it out as the culprit.

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Tree, using the acid in your reservoir, You are correct the Sodium (Na) is NEVER something you want to add to the rootzone…substitute with the KCl and you should eliminate your issues and the acid will be just as effective…

BTW, when applying the acid to foliage, the sodium is honestly not that big of a deal, hypochlorous acid is ‘surface active’ and not much penetrates the leaf cuticle…but putting it in the reservoir keeps that damn sodium available…Congrats, you figured it out yourself!

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I would just go with what D fart said. A cup for every 5 gallons. Disclaimer, I haven’t tried it yet. This stuff is new to all of us. Using it on my live plants works very well so I imagine using it on the ones that are freshly dead won’t hurt. The one suggestion I would make is putting a hard blowing fan on your flowers to dry them after you do the wash. Once they stop dripping then they’re ready to go wherever you dry them.

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Do y’all think the acid would kill BT? I was thinking about making a mixture for efficiency’s sake, but I assumed the acid would make the BT inactive. What do you think?

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By the way, I used a cup of acid in five gals of water, per Happ’s method, to wash a couple baby auto plants. I can’t see any ill effects. The plants are drying on schedule. They smell perfect and look perfect.

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Yes, the acid is very efficient and will kill the BT just as it would WPM or other diseases…
I wouldn’t hesitate applying the BT and letting it do it’s thing for about a week before the next application of acid.
I also wouldn’t hesitate applying the BT a day or so after the last application of acid…

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Finally got some potassium chloride to play with. Ran 5 cycles with it, same steps as the sodium. Measured the total ppm to compare to my last bit of FFRD total ppm. The home generated is about half of the total PPM as the FFRD and roughly the same concentration of hypochlorous ( the home made should actually be higher concentration of hypochlorous then FFRD ). I’m going to feed 5 ml/gal to an extra clone for a few weeks to see if there are any problems. 5 ml / gal is the highest recommended usage for FFRD with 1ml/Gal at the low end.

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Two weeks with the potassium chloride home generated hypochlorous at 5 ml/gal.

The hydrogen peroxide I ordered is delayed and I ran out so both reservoirs are running on the homemade hypochlorous now. I ordered some chlorine test strips to keep better track of the ppm in the homemade stuff.

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Your plants look great.
Frankly, I believe your hypochlorous acid remains active in you nutrient solution much longer than hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide is an oxidizer (acid) , so with ionic nutrients it would tend to neutralize fairly quickly…however it does provide oxygen to the roots…not sure how significant that is with well aerated reservoirs, but it is a fact.

You know, many of the guys have had issues with chlorine test strips effectiveness…I believe it was @Dog_Fart1 who actually found some strips that gave pretty good results…

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Thank you @TheMadFlascher I do prefer the hypochlorous for keeping the res sterile and it seems to do a nice job reducing salt build up. I wanted to test the homemade stuff for a little while for the extra peace of mind. It’ still kind of amazes me how fast we can make it for so cheap. A gallon would cost me around 100$ canadian, it definitely pays for itself pretty quickly. I do still like the hydrogen peroxide for cleaning fittings and air stones in between runs though.

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Another awesome thread to read the wealth of knowledge in this group (Family) is so amazing and helpful

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@TheMadFlascher Yes Bob, they are 0-600ppm range, sweet spot right there where the generators hit. I found them on a restaurant supply, sanitizing for the scullery, then ultimately on Amazon because I wanted quick - search “0-600ppm chlorine test strips.” If anyone has troubles msg me and Ill look at my amazon history for you.

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Thanks Doggy!

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After finding and reading this whole thread I picked up the eco one and potassium chloride, already have the vinegar. I’m gonna give hypochlorous acid a shot at getting rid of pm. I’ve been battling pm for a couple of months now with grow safe and while it works well I just can’t knock it out. Probably got to do with coverage but my sprayer is doing the best it can. I have a ulv fogger but I don’t want to try the grow safe in it. But the hypochlorous acid method sounds like it wil work well.
I don’t have an ro system but my water is pretty good at around 53 ppm. It’s well water that is filtered the a carbon and a settlement filter and then another pur filter at the tap.
Would my water be good enough or should I go buy water for this project?

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@smokinjoe, some people are using tap water in the acid generator.
The less contaminants in the water, the more stable your acid will be. I’m a chemist so I tend to be anal!!!
Heck, you can usually buy distilled water pretty easily and it’s not that expensive ! That’s up to you !
The potassium chloride is a great fit and you will use the same measurement as the sodium chloride !

The acid will eliminate you PM. In reading through the thread ,you have the information you need on the cycling sequence and pH control through the process !

Good luck and if you have any further questions there are many great growers on here that own the Eco system and can help you out !!

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I live in Mexico and all we have is bottled. We have running water but no one will drink it, not even locals. I do run my dehumidifier and collect the water produced. I should be able to use that water correct? I am right at the tipping point of buying the Eco 1. Somebody tip me over please.

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Have you checked the EC or PPM of the water you collect in your dehumidifier? If it’s a low EC or PPM it should be fine to use.

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Usually dehumidifier water is not sterile so it will react with the hypochlorous. You might be better off using the bottled water if you want find any bottled distilled water. You might be able to find the ppm of the water in the bottles on the label.

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