Mud's Perpetual Grow

Slym3r · June 28, 2021, 12:59pm

oohh-guurll

happilyretired · June 28, 2021, 1:20pm

I’ve noticed when revegging flowered plants they don’t seem to have as strong of stems and they grow kind of funky. Even the clones I takeoff them don’t seem to perform as well. Is it just me or is anybody else notice this?

Slym3r · June 28, 2021, 1:21pm

I take clones off branches that are to small I bet. That’s why mine come out funky. Although the grin I just cloned did super well…

mudman · June 28, 2021, 3:26pm

This is my first reveg. I guess I’ll find out…

mudman · June 28, 2021, 3:33pm

Now that Vivienne has the crate to herself, I’m free to do whatever I please about her lankiness. My first attempt resulted in a split stem so I gave her a good feeding and a couple days to recover. This morning I was more successful.

Slym3r · June 28, 2021, 3:59pm

She’s good… look at all that new growth on her way up

LasVegas7 · June 28, 2021, 4:04pm

I think shes in LOVE and trying to tell u something special

mudman · June 28, 2021, 4:25pm

Or maybe just thankful to be alive after seeing her brothers chopped and trying to make sure the same doesn’t happen to her.

OlyBoy · June 28, 2021, 8:31pm

Omg! Did you see what happened to the others?!? Better shape up!

Enlightened420 · June 29, 2021, 12:53am

Always late to the awesome convos
Revegging from flower requires extreme amounts of energy, that energy would normally be put into vegging or flower… Then you also have the clone declination factor, each generation of clones has slightly less ‘chi’ for lack of a better word.
This is the way it was explained to me, by a very proficient farmer who has years worth of successful growing experience…

Regular seeds have the highest, natural amount of chi, clones of these seeds, have slightly less chi, each generation of clones, this chi declines.
Feminised seeds have less chi than regs, clones of these, have less again and declining each generation.
Then you get to crossing strains back over themselves to boost the available chi to the original, or higher…

I hope this makes sense as I have written it, as it does in my head

happilyretired · June 29, 2021, 1:07am

Makes sense to me.

TheMadFlascher · June 29, 2021, 3:17am

Hi Enlightened!
Ummmmm… sorry, your proficient farmer evidently extrapolated a true phenomenon (PCD, Programmed Cell Death) into a inaccurate ‘chi’ concept which is not factually accurate. The mechanisms for PCD are apoptosis and autophagy.
I believe I can explain how this ‘chi’ concept evolved… Take a INDIVIDUAL human cell in vitro, and it will only replicate itself accurately maybe 20 times before it undergoes apoptosis and dies. At some point someone interpreted this as a loss of ‘chi’ in succeeding replications. What was lost in this analogy is a plant or animal is a collection of millions of cells. Some of these are indeed undergoing PCD, but millions of other cells are constantly being renewed in our bone marrow or a plant’s apical meristems.

PCD is absolutely beneficial in an organism’s life functions by removing dysfunctional or otherwise damaged cells. Also very interesting, we humans would not have individual fingers or toes if in our early development the PCD of cells between our digits was not successful!!

Losses of vigor in plant clones are much more likely caused by genetic mutations caused over a long period of time, or even induced by viral infections…hope this helps explain it a little better, and clarify some misunderstanding of a beautiful cellular life process!!

mudman · June 29, 2021, 4:03pm

Throwback Thursday comes early this week.

I took a little trip to the first forum I ever joined to snatch back some pics of the first plant I ever flipped.

Nellie III was a photo Northern Lights that did GREAT outside in a 5g fabric pot full of Ocean Forest. Unfortunately I didn’t get to take her to harvest.