@rattletrap welcome to the community!! I work long hours and noticed this thread. It’s all too much water and not enough light. @Dforce @kevinstrombel already nailed. Over water is all to easy to do. And they say the seedling stage can be the hardest part of a grow. Ive killed a lot of seedlings over the years learning and things happen. But your in the right place to get help and advise on your grow. We have a fantastic group of growers here to help out. Also on the overwatering whats happening is the plants drowning in waterm the roots needs some oxygen and the waters stopping that. And the plant needs more light to use the water up. But it cant breath good enough to effectively use the water. So it will sit there in wet soil trying the grow. Now if you point a fan at it. It will dry a lot faster. And another question? how cold is the room? Looks cold also. Needs to be 70f or warmer!
I appreciate all the information provided. I do have a oscillating fan AC Cloudray 9 on them. Temps are about 70 when dark, upper 70’s to 80 in light.
Your setup looks great overall, but the leggy growth could be due to either too much distance from the light or not enough light intensity for your seedlings. Try lowering the light or adjusting the schedule to give them more focused light. If they don’t improve with a little more care, starting fresh might be the best option. Keep experimenting and learning—it’s all part of the growing process!
Thanks for the advice. Another thing I was thinking about. When growing outdoors, temps often were in the mid 50’s at night and had no ill effects. Daytime temps were in the upper 70’s to mid 80’s.
Inside the tent, temps are in the upper 70’s to low 80’s. When lighting goes off, temps get down to around 64-65 Deg. Based on previous mentioned outdoor grow night time temps, seems I should still be safe. Is this a problem for indoor grow?
I am going to start germinating a couple new Ripped Bubba Autos. Sadly, these girls just don’t seem to be responding, I’ll keep them going but might be time to throw in the towel of them. Starting fresh might give new insights.
You need to keep your light around 1 ft, and adjust the intensity accordingly. Me thinks you are watering too much. All your equipment seems to be top shelf.
When I germinate, and they first come up, I leave a humidity dome on them for around two to four days depending on how they are doing. When I pull the dome off, I don’t water for at least a week. I use 1/2 gal starter pots from Amazon they are real flimsy but work fine. When I do start watering, I use a big syringe and only water them with about 40-50 cc. every two days or so. Moist not wet. I start feeding at around 1/4 strength if using nutes. I don’t anymore as I use an organic mix that is self regulating. I also take my finger and tamp the soil back to the sides of the cup so that it doesn’t get a space between the cup and the soil all the way to the bottom. As it dries the soil shrinks. If your soil isn’t shrinking you are keeping it too wet. I use a small led grow light that is only 2 feet long in a little starter box I made, it stays really cool at around mid 60’s. And the light output is high in blue for short stocky growth.
This is Asian Fantasy at about a two to two and a half weeks. Seeds were from Growers choice.
Marty
It’s all trial and error!
A quick question surrounding humidity, what are you hovering at for this early germination/seedling stage?
Are you using any sort of humidity dome or plastic cover over the sprouts?
Once sprouted, I dome them for a couple of days. Maybe I should go a couple days more. This is the first time I have experienced it.
I know it’s trial and error, but also frustrating. I have never had such a hard time trying to grow. That said, it is the first time trying start to finish indoors.
I can certainly lower the water dosage with the new girls, once sprouted.
Those are some strong looking plants. I have all but given up on the 2 ailing starts. I have 2 new plants. Ripped Bubba Autos. They sprouted Tuesday and Thursday last week. Dark green. Look healthy in relation to the other 2. I have taken domes off to get them exposed to the fan to strengthen them. Humidity is about 60%. Temp 71deg. PAR 265. Depending on website I read seedlings like to be 100 all the way up to 400 PAR. As they are in the serious infancy stage I am watch and see right now.
How are your new seedlings looking, Rattletrap?
Here are some recent Autos (Fast Eddy CBD and Haze). They are 3 weeks old grown from seed.
I’ve been feeding with Ventana Plant Science (VPS) + FlavUh + Stash Blend
This stuff works amazing! Let me know if you want to learn more about the system.
I hope all going well!
I would like to know more about these nutes.
I have been just giving them water their first week. Healthy, green but still very much seedlings. The growth of your plants is amazing! I can’t imagine mine getting that far along in 2 weeks time. I must look into this magic potion you possess! 3 weeks? Some black magic at work, I tell you, black magic.
Not meaning to be critical… but looks like you are way overfeeding them girls.
Marty
I didn’t think one was supposed to start giving nutes in seedlings stage. But, heck I over watered the previous 2. Are there rules on nutes. When to?
Interesting Marty! Are you speaking about my Autos?
If so, I am currently watering 1 L every three days with moderate usage of VPS + Flavuh + Stash Blend (based on the chart).
I’ve been LST all of them and they seems to be responding well! But if you are talking about mine, what signs of overfeeding do you see? I’d love to learn!
Hey Rattletrap!
Correct, there are rules to nutes! You traditionally don’t need to add any nutrients to your water until the vegetation sage, especially if you are using a great soil.
For the nutrient loadout I have been using, Ventana Plant Science (VPS) + FlavUh + Stash Blend, there are some recommendations for the seedling or clone stage nutrients, but the real delivery starts once the seedling has established a few node sites and starts vegetation (usually after a week or so).
One of the reasons I love Ventana Plant Science is that they make it easy to follow nutrient progression through their Nutrient Feeding Chart (you can locate on the above website). Each nutrient it created to properly meet the plant where it is in the growth cycle, and the directions provided makes it easy to follow. You can customize what you need with each water by playing with the upper and lower threshold recommendations, and once you hit your groove, you can really see the results.
Stash blend adds some great nutrients as well, and rounds the whole nutrient loadout perfectly.
It also is very reasonably priced for an entire nutrient loadout (if you are interested, be sure to use the code VPS25GN for 25% off. The code is active so it will make it even that more affordable).
Let me know if I can provide any more info. Highly recommended!