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You can look up recharge. It is sold on Amazon, it’s not super expensive end it has pretty much everything you need in it as far as microbes as well as molasses and other stuff. I use it on my outdoor grows.
RO water?
Those of us that use RO water, use it because our water starts out close to 0 ppm. So we know exactly how much nutrients we are giving the plants. This is mostly used in soilless grows.
I just use regular well water for my outdoor grow. Although I do pH any water that goes into pots. For some reason I always get a PH lock out when growing with soil in pots.
I like your greenhouse set up. Very nice :+1:t3:

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@happilyretired
Hey thanks! That’s a very understandable explanation for why people prefer RO indoors. I might have to work up to that one. I’m completely new to all of this ppm and pH business with plants. I’ve only associated pH w/ owning fish thus far. I just recently realized I have a TDS meter in the stuff my friend gave me to get started. I appreciate the suggestion for recharge and will look into it. For now I’m doing lots of homework and sticking with what I know about gardening. I’m experimenting as usual! LOL! :relaxed:

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These are my most recent pics of my outdoor grow in flower. I introduced a brewed compost tea with molasses last week and I think they might be doing better. Another grower friend suggested triple diluting some calmag and slowly starting to introduce it. I’m hesitant because I don’t want to do too much too fast but I also want to save my harvest. What do y’all think?

Celestial skunk



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Also found beetle larva and extinguished them. Will continue to survey.

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Maui mango haze



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Now on to my baby inside. She looks happy.

GMO



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Your plants are hungry. I’m not an organic grower so I don’t know what to tell you to feed them, but they need to eat. If you’re going to use Cal Meg I wouldn’t use anything less than a half dose. These plants eat a lot. On your flowering plants they’re so far along that they’re not really putting out a whole Lotta new growth so basically you’ll be watching the color of the small leaves on the buds. The big leaves that are yellowing will not recover. Maybe @hoppiefrog Will have a suggestion for you on what you can feed them to get them to crank back up. :+1:t3::v:t3:

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It seems like I was doing great until they went into flower. I’m trying to figure out where I went wrong. I’ve been feeding them every week. My fear has been overfeeding and here I’ve underfed. Huh? So I guess my question is how much is too much for cannabis? I’ve fed way more than any of my vegetables eat, I can tell you that.

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It does eat a lot. I do it once a week feeding on my plants in flower and it’s well over 3000 ppm every time. Then I give them straight water two times and then feed again. Are you letting them dry out mostly between waterings? I can only think of three things right now that would make your plants look like they do in the pictures. I say in the pictures because in the pictures and in real life are always different. Anyways the three things are not enough food too much water or pH lockout. The only way to truly know what your soil pH is is by doing a slurry test. But I think it would just be easier to do a pH flush. What I mean by that is fill up a couple of 5 gallon buckets with water pH the water to 6.5. Then water each pot until you get at least a gallon of runoff. If you are on city water and it is chlorinated you should be letting your water sit in a bucket for 24 hours before using to let the chlorine gas off. I don’t know if you know that or not.

What are you feeding them anyway? And how much. What does the label say as far as how much per feeding?

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Chrisj asked me a similar question earlier in the thread so I’ll link it. As for how much, I probably use about a tbsp per five gal of water. I started feeding them two or maybe even three weeks after the feeder leaves came off. I know now this was one of my first mistakes because 1andonlyredneck said I should begin as soon as or at least closer to the time they fall off. The plants seemed ok but it might be because I use Neptune’s seaweed as plant food and foliage spray. When seedlings pop up I usually give them one little spritz mist. Idk, I guess it’s my way of saying welcome to the world, I’ve always done it lol. Anyway, two or three weeks later I started adding about a tbsp of seaweed per five gal of water. The next week I added about a tbsp of fish fertilizer. It was a few weeks later that I started adding about a tbsp of micronutrients. When I saw the first sign of flowers I added about a tbsp of morbloom. I’ve also mixed in a couple handfuls of worm castings into the topsoil a few times. I’ve been feeding them like that weekly until this past week when I did the brewed compost tea with molasses.

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They need certain things during the vegetative state and they need different things during flowering. And it sounds to me like you’re just adding more to it without taking away anything. Whatever you’re giving them that is high in nitrogen stop giving it to them. Read the labels how much do they say to add per gallon of water. If you’re putting 1 tablespoon of organic fertilizer per 5 gallons of water once a week you are way way under feeding your plants. At least that’s the way it seems to me not knowing exactly what those products are. I’m not gonna look them up. Read the labels see what they say if you don’t understand it take a picture to were we here can read it. Sorry I can’t be more help

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I’ve been doing a lot of research and I know you’re not wrong. When I get home I’ll get back to you about those labels.

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experiance is the best way to learn .it will take several grows. their is a reason some people call it weed . it wants to grow . patience peace .

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that my friends is what you call sulphur deficiency, get some wettable sulphur if you are not using Epsom salts or potassium sulfate you probably will need sulphur for your feeds.if not using those sulphur based products try those first, if you are add sulphur as well.you can speed up the process by sponging some sulpher on fan leaves that are not in a bud, wait two days and wait for the transition it’s impressive.this will also help pick up the vigor or the plant. this is identifiable due to the yellowing from bottom up, it looks much different than nitrogen deficiency

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to Guage your feeds base you feeds on the concept that you have to feed 10% of soil volume weekly.this can be done in one to 5 feeds it’s up to you really, but best to break it down to 3-5 I find.

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@hoppiefrog Oh ok. I use epsom on my tomatoes sometimes. I’ll use some when I water again. Thank you!

@happilyretired Here are the labels. I agree I’m over diluting. I’ll adjust it and take it as a learning experience. My main goal was not to over feed, didn’t mean to go to the other extreme. I’m at least happy to know what I’m not doing properly.
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Neptune’s harvest seaweed plant food


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Fish fertilizer


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Micronutrients


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Morbloom

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I will absolutely bow too @hoppiefrog when it comes to organics. One thing I can definitely tell you if you’re going to use fish fertilizer make sure no dogs can get near it. Two years ago I planted all my clones gave them a good dose of fish emulsion, went in and ate breakfast came back out to clean up and found my dog look for that fish under every plant :rage::man_facepalming::man_shrugging:… I couldn’t get mad I love my dog. He was just doing what came natural. Anyways feeding by the labels will help. You should definitely follow @hoppiefrog advice.

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Hiya, is it okay if I DM you for your compost tea recipe, too?

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ya outdoor I would stick to mineralized phosphate (Indonesian b.g.:wink: or soft rock phosphate & coconut water or potash animals are not attracted to those as they are broken down or not appealing to animals

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I’m waiting for those feeder leaves to fall off so I can start feeding. I’ve been researching low stress training. After researching I decided I wanna try LST and understand it more before I try high stress training again. While I feel it was somewhat successful, I think I should’ve done it earlier. Thinking back, it might’ve been what stressed them and caused three of them to hermie. It was either that or the heat and I keep thinking if it was the heat then all of them would’ve been effected. I feel like that one’s going to be a mystery to me until I’m more experienced. Or maybe it was the seed, either way I’m getting off track, sorry lol. My question is when should I start LST? I kinda think maybe another week or at least once the feeder leaves fall off and I’m starting to feed. Should I do it now or wait?
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you can definitely start your feeds! as the third set of leaves appear. if in Living soil go with 1/4 strength feeds for first week then half next week then full following.

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no need to stunt your plants progress before they make it out the gate, starvation at the start will definitely effect your plants potential later in life and will not recover 100% (this is most important for seedlings, after they establish themselves they can bounce back much better from most issues)

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Ok great! What about low stress training? When should I start that?

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