t5 for seedling and propagation.
This went to an LED bar by same company that makes the t5s. (Not thrilled actually like the metal halide 400w better, after germination chamber.)
Single row of diodes. Very laser like. I also had it quite close before getting a par meter and seeing how highphoton that light could produce at close proxy (plants twisty leaves otherwise not many issues, 900-1400ppf ) That close wasn’t very early maybe couple leaf stage. And cold temps even.
Currently am using a metal halide for veg. Will be adding the LEC into that room as well. With the full spectrum bulb not the flower bulb. I really liked the Phillips elite agro. But with a metal halide, full led as a supplement.
I’m really curious to try a 630 with one of each type of bulb staggered. Vented and supplemented with my new found fandom in @Fluence.
a metal halide for veg
I purchased a 315 LeC(cmh) sun system for flower. Will move to veg. As my next plan has been ordered.
Now I will be using
Vyprx+ High light intensity. Bar light.
Spydrx±close proximity high ppfd area (scrog style)
-Ray 44" with pfr spec (far red, will be playing with pre night conditions. Along with cooling pre night. And lowering light intensity.
(Currently fluence controller is not adjustable beyond the wattage/dimming of the driver) so I was using the LeC to start the day.
This warms the room without beying brought to full photon delivery. (Day light integral is more easily achieved with these awesomely powerful lights)
I run an 11-13 cycle currently.
(That spectrum peak of 630nm ish seemed very interesting to me. Also great responses in my opinion).
I was so happy with why I saw from the tester Vyprx+ that I ordered that I decided to commit the artillery to a full fluence line up for now.
I’m talking to another manufacturer about a test. Now they will have something to try to stand up to. (Long story short, hire a quality salesperson,that won’t rely on “sales tactics”.
Tho they were willing to let me try one.
So I will do that trial before I make judgments because from what I had seen before the fluence, was impressive and full spectrum. :).
Either way full spectrum LED has proven itself to me after a years worth of reaserching and getting fortunate enough to attend the “Grow-Up conference” in Niagara Falls Canada. Where they had just released quite a bit of new information on LED. And fluence was on par or ahead of said research.
Other brands quickly became obsolete IMO. (Also the opinion o many phd and top world lighting specialist) no more blurple!!
Though it likely has its place somewhere.
I like the idea of diffused light. As in greenhouse as well. I have an idea to use the high lights vyprs with this new type of greenhouse thermal film to diffuse all light after the film later.
I find that the light block from leaves is significant but at the same time so is removing all the area where the plant is gathering energy for growing.
(Defoliating science was just started to be discussed. Would love to have a convo in that area, I’d like less leaf in flower myself. )
With this light diffusing the spectrum could be easily controlled. As well as the environment within the lighting area. (Self vent the whole area) and then the plant area would be separate and not affected by the thermal or air moving.
I want to say the film was made by a Swedish company but the name is not coming to me.
Was the most translucent thermal blanket on market at the time.
I haven’t tested the spydr yet so when it comes will have a better idea of that. From what I’ve seen and heard online. It should work very well for flat canopy bulk product. Or that’s my thoughts. But I’m also clumsy and tend to work on the plants under lights. So will have to learn to pull them out of the way for that.
Vyprs got the trial run for that reason.
I’m always up for learning/trying new things.
But I wasn’t ready to invest in LED until I saw science that even the greenhouse guys were happy with.
And I’ve never like the funny spectrum for cultivation. And like fertilizer. There is never just a "oh it only needs these few things we found out"
The whole reason cannabis works is the enterouge effect. And yet we want to try and separate all the enterage effect of nature to grow this medicine. (Or rec for those that are)
So as you can tell I’m now a Fluence fanboy. And can’t wait till my order placed yesterday is built. :). In Texas.
Little bit of “kiss ass” but the construction on the units themselves (vypr) is beautiful. Looks like a race car. And I like to have quality over quantity.
Quality parts even if not top bin (I’ve heard,unsure) but these are also rated for wetter environment.
Still want to try a 630 for some reason but likely LED from here in out.
I will be adding more spectrum i.e. The early morning start in red and possibly UV treatment tests in future. But for now
Ramping daylight start finish (with temps and co2 ramping)
High ppf for DAylight integral for several hours in middle of ramping. Higher temps and co2 at this point. (This control I don’t have yet. One day)
Remember I call myself
The plant “opinion”. :).
Beyond Belief Farms.
Happy [email protected] plantopinion (on instagram)
New thing starting.